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  1. Shauna wrote on

    I wonder why this argument seems to be used so frequently in connection with writers (as opposed to other professions). It does seem like we’re asked to justify our pricing and services more than other service providers and to be prepared to offer free services until we’ve ‘proved’ ourselves. In a world where information is available on so many mediums 24/7 it really is time for publishers to start valuing quality content for its own sake – invest in people and their work, be discerning in your choices and your investment in the creator will eventually pay off. Writing is a skilled profession, it’s time people recognised that.

    1. Glenn Murray wrote on

      Yeah, I don’t know Shauna. I think there are a lot of reasons, but ultimately, I think it’ll be relatively short-lived. False economies never last.

  2. Sarah Mitchell wrote on

    Hi Glenn,

    Honestly, I think writers – good writers anyway, have a friend in Jane Gilmore. I agree, she started the article a little whiny. (She did admit to being sick.) It definitely was a rant. We all know who she’s talking about and I don’t think it’s you and I hope it’s not me. She closed with this, “Finding good writers is far more difficult than you would imagine. Finding good writers who are an incentive to paying customers is even more difficult.” That tells me she’s ready and willing to pay for good writing if she can find it. She’s looking for it. I wish more publishers were willing to put out that call to action and less willing to publish junk like this:

    1. Glenn Murray wrote on

      Thanks for your comment Sarah. Whether we have a friend in Jane, outside of the article, I couldn’t say. I know nothing about her, and she may be a top sheila. But I can’t see how her post implies she’s ready and willing to pay for good writing if she can find it. In fact, she says exactly the opposite! “…paying writers what they are worth is not going to happen until that ingrained attitude changes.”

  3. Kate wrote on

    This is the most I have sighed and nodded all day.

  4. Susan Oakes wrote on

    I am confused Glenn. I would have thought businesses that succeed today have a solid model to get sales and cover costs without decreasing the sales of others. I understand what she says about typos, badly written articles, but it may be the case of you get what you pay for. If they make their money through subscriptions, then they need quality articles. This means you need to pay for them at a reasonable rate I would think. Perhaps it is a case that only inexperienced or lesser skilled writers will submit articles because of the nominal fee. Out of interest what is the fee?

  5. Susan Oakes wrote on

    I read the article again and one part of my earlier comment was probably wrong. I thought they only paid a nominal fee. It could be the case that they pay okay for well written work.

    1. Glenn Murray wrote on

      Hi Susan. I’m not sure what they pay. The point is she’s asking writers to cover costs until readers are willing to pay for value: “…paying writers what they are worth is not going to happen until [readers’] ingrained attitude changes.”

      I bet all the staffers there are getting paid market rates…

  6. Kate Toon wrote on

    I haven’t read Jane’s article so shouldn’t really comment. But I will. There are crap writers and there are good writers. Just like with every other industry. Articles like this (hers not yours) are so yawn. I’ve heard it all before. Yawn!

    1. Glenn Murray wrote on

      Yeah, it’s a bit tiring seeing it all the time. Have to agree.

  7. Glenn Murray wrote on

    This issue has once again cropped up. This time on Mumbrella, about Crikey: ‘Why I said no to The Daily Review’ – Journalist Andrew Stafford explains why he taken a stand against not being paid for his work The post also makes mention of mamamia’s claim that it pays contributors (when it pays only $50!).

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